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Is Chain Abstraction The Next Big Thing? ft. @ox_shaman 🎙️

@arjunnchand sits down with Mislav, co-founder at @klaster_io to explore chain abstraction, Klaster’s approach to cross-network orchestration, and what’s next for the space.

This episode's special — Klaster is a close partner, working with @lifiprotocol on chain abstraction in their stack.

Key moments from the episode:

0:00 - Intro and Mislav’s Entry in Interop

6:24 - Evolution of Interop and Chain Abstraction

9:01 - Token Frameworks and the CAKE Framework

11:24 - Is Chain Abstraction Necessary?

16:10 - How Klaster Uses Orchestration

25:20 - Alternatives to Klaster’s Approach: Solvers, Blockchain-Based Orchestration, and MPC Networks

28:23 - Klaster’s Approach to Intent vs. Transaction-Based Execution

32:46 - Are Chain Abstraction Protocols EVM-Centric?

36:58 - How Chain Abstraction Protocols Will Compete in the Market?

40:06 - Is There VC Interest in the Chain Abstraction Niche?

42:04 - The Bull and Bear Case for Klaster

46:08 - Challenges of Building in a New Niche as a Founder

49:14 - CT, Extreme Takes, and Humility

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